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Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jun 26 2007 - 10:22 AM
Subject: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi,

First of all, I want to thank you for this useful extension

Well, I have a question concerning an enhancement for this blog/discussion/comment ext:
Do you have plans to extend it to a kind of "wordpress lite"? - What does that mean?

I could imagine to make the functionality like tt_news. I create a new recordset for
a list overview > topic 1 (rs1), topic 2 (rs2), topic 3 (rs3) and so on. Here I have
the discussion issue + 2-3 sentences what it's all about + a link to a detail page.
When I enter the detail page, there is always the whole description of the issue +
the plugin of the discussion/commenting system.

This would prevent a lot of extra work like making new pages, the linking and so on.
Especially if you use your site as blog with many entries.

What do you think about it?

kind regards
Tom

Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jun 26 2007 - 11:08 AM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hmmm, it seems to be that it might be possilbe to set up
something like this. The questions is just how
The first steps on your manual a clear, but I didn't
find the place where to build this overview list/category/
detail page stuff.
Could you give me a hint where I have to read?

thanks
Tom
Author: Dave Slayback
Posted: Jun 26 2007 - 05:55 PM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi Tom,

The discussion plugin does support single-view but only in the context of Search or Preview. However, I would need to add either a "Single" option in the Flexform Type field and/or a ### VIEW_SINGLE### marker to support it in the display list view. This is fairly trivial to add, and I will look into adding it the next version.

Would this support your needs?

-Dave
Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jun 27 2007 - 12:05 PM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi Dave,

Yeah that would be cool. It's like entering a forum. The
first thing you see ist overview from all topics. Clicking
on one you get to the details. Especially if you are not
interested in the other ones. The same in Wordpress. There
is the overview page with all issues. And only if you click
on the detail link you will be refered to the page with all
the comments and so on.
Considering this case an add on to tt_news would be also useful
using WEC Discussion as commenting system. There would be an
extra marker in the single view for the commenting part.

Finally I have a question concerning the preview. Here I
didn't find the parameter to show more than 4-5 words >
"I would like to... more" > should become "I would like to
pronounce, that we have a new cool product called YXZ... more"
I checked the option tab and changed the number but nothing
happend. Either it's the wrong field or it's a bug.

best regards

Tom
Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jun 29 2007 - 04:59 AM
Subject: re: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
There is something else where I'm not sure, how to
solve it. When I choose "Discussion" as preset for the
plugin the form is always shown. So, if I click the
button at top I jump directly to the form.
But if I choose "Custom" as preset the form only reveals
when I click on the href"makecomment" in the entries. If
I click on the top button "add comments" nothing happens
as the form doesn't show up > http://layout-herber.net/cms-demo/index.php?id=52
(click on "zum Kommentarformular" and on "Kommentar
hinzufügen). Any idea how to fix this?

What do I have to do to enable the archive? I created
a second page put there the plugin with the preset
"Archive". The link is set under the mainpage for
"detailpage". But if I click on the June link I just
see the archive box nothing else

thanks indeed
Tom
Author: Jeff Segars
Posted: Jun 29 2007 - 06:50 PM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hey Tom,
Just to let you know, Dave is out for a a couple days on vacation. Rather than making a bad guess at an answer now, I'll wait for him to help you when he gets back

Thanks,
Jeff
Author: Dave Slayback
Posted: Jun 30 2007 - 04:40 PM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi Tom,

Thanks for thoughts on making it more Wordpress-like. I can look into that in next major version to make it more easily. The ###VIEW_SINGLE### is a start. As for integrating with the comment system of tt_news, it seems possible since TimTab blog does it -- I would have to research this.

For the preview, you can set in the Flexform -- the Display tab->"Character length for a preview item". This is the number of characters, not words. Remember that for the Preview, you need to change this value in the Preview instance of the plugin, not the main discussion plugin.

Your problem with the Custom view and Add Comment button at top is indeed a bug. I have noted it and should have it fixed in the next minor update.

The Archive problem sounds like a misunderstanding of how that works. The Archive is not really for a separate page, but adding the Archive in a different column on the same page. Some users need this for their templates. Others do not and it can be in the sidebar. When selecting the Archive, it will just update the current page with the given month's records. Let me know what other kind of functionality you would be looking for here.

-Dave
Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jul 03 2007 - 05:42 AM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hey Dave,

Short vacation eh ;) take your time...

However, yeah - with this enhancement + my bottom suggestions,
it would become a real cool discussion forum fitting all
the needs.

Link-Bug: Ok, I'm waiting for the next minor update to get this
problem fixed.

Archive: Probably I became confused looking at this option:
"(PREVIEW/RSS/ARCHIVE) Discussion page to link back to"
Here I was not sure about the meaning of it. I linked to the detail
page. There I just saw the archive box but nothing else. When I
deleted this entry, the archive posts appear properly.

To improve the overview for the users of this discussion forum, I
have 3 suggestions:

1.An Choosen archive link should also become to
"tx-wecdiscussion-listElementSelected". Right now there is no visual
feedback to where we are.

2. An title in top of all entries to make it clear where we are.
E.g.: I click the category link "church" so I get the title
<h2>church</2>, I click the archive link "June 2007" I get the
title <h2>Archive June 2007</h2>.

3. Archive overview: Clicking on a month I see all entries for this
month. If you have 1 or 2 catgories this would be ok. But what if
you have 10 categories with different discussion topics? It would
become really hard to seperate them if they are all together in one
overview. Because discussions could continue for 2 or 3 month until
they stop. Here it would be cool, if the monthly archive takes all the
categories form the category box to keep the overview. This would
mean for the title <h2>Archive June 2007: Category church</h2>.
With this structure it should be easy to follow older discussions
in the archive.

Let me know what you think about it.

So long

Tom
Author: Dave Slayback
Posted: Jul 04 2007 - 03:33 PM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi Tom,

When you get a chance, try out the new version, 1.5.1. It has many of the changes you suggested plus a few more along with some bug fixes. Thanks for all your feedback on this.

-Dave
Author: Tom Novy
Posted: Jul 05 2007 - 09:19 AM
Subject: re: Discussion Forum enhancement
Hi Dave,

Thanks for the quick update I tried it today. It's almost
perfect ;) Beside the one or other feature, there seems to be
a problem with the category/archive menu. When I open the page
I have 2 links selected, one in cats one in archive. When I
choose a category the title header is alright. If I then click
on a link in the archive menu I have suddenly 2 titles in the
header. The old one from the cat and the other form archive >
"Archive June 2007/Riding horses" > there should always just
one link be highlighted and also just one title appear in the
header. Can you fix this?

thanks
Tom
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