So I've been trying to move my typo3 install from one host to another. I just discovered the old host wiped out my typo3 datbase. So it looks like I will be starting from scratch. I have all the physical files and folder on the new host but no database.

What is the best way to proceed? Should I install the old version of typo3 and WEC starter or could I start fresh with the latest typo3 and WEC? I have all the requirements for typo3 4.2 on the new server.

Thanks for the help

Andre,

Sorry to hear that they deleted your database. Given the situation, I suggest starting with the latest greatest WEC Starter Package for 4.2.1. Maybe Google cached pages can help you retrieve a few things. It has saved me before.

In Him,
Mark

I'm just a little bit confused. When I ran the utility script to check my vendor's ability to host Typo3, it came back saying that PHP was good. Yet after installing the starter package and changing permissions as directed, I was surprised when I tried to log into the site. It told me that Typo3 only runs on PHP 5.1 or better. The results area (pasted below) show that my vendor's version of PHP is 4.4.7. Shouldn't the script have warned me about that incompatibility?

I do realize that there are other areas that need to be addressed. I'm attempting to approach them one by one. But this first one has honestly thrown me for something of a loop.

I'll keep chugging along, but am interested in learning your insights.
Ron Moody

-= PHP Scripting Test =-
OS Linux Passed
Version 4.4.7 Passed
Server API cgi Passed
Max Execution Time 30 Passed
Memory Limit 32M Passed
Max Upload Filesize 10M Passed
Required Functions success Passed
max_traversal success Passed

-= Email Test =-
email sending via mail() info Warning

-= MySQL Database Test =-
Status Missing Information Warning
Please edit the top of this file and enter your database information
as provided by your hosting company or system manager.
Client Version 4.1.11 Passed
SQL Safe Mode Passed

-= File Permissions Test =-
777 Permissions allowed Yes Passed
Minimum write permissions 0755 Passed
Symlinks Success Passed

-= Apache Web Server Test =-
Version not found Warning
Apache version couldn't be determined, probably because Apache is configured not
to display its version information. This is usually okay.
mod_rewrite unable to determine this setting due to the server configuration Warning
mod_security can't determine Warning
Allow Override Success Passed
Rewrite URLs success Passed

-= Graphics Test =-
GD library found Passed
GraphicsMagick library failed Failed
GraphicsMagick not installed
ImageMagick library found Passed

-= TYPO3 Test =-
Base Tag Failed
The base tag is empty and needs to be changed
to the address of your TYPO3 installation.
.htaccess file found Passed
RealURL success Passed
TYPO3 index.php Success Passed
fileadmin Could not access file over HTTP. Warning
File couldn't be read. Please check file permissions.
uploads Could not access file over HTTP. Warning
File couldn't be read. Please check file permissions.
typo3temp Could not access file over HTTP. Warning
File couldn't be read. Please check file permissions.
typo3conf Could not access file over HTTP. Warning
File couldn't be read. Please check file permissions.

Ron,
This is an error on our end so we'll get the server checker fixed ASAP. Sorry about that. Historically, TYPO3 has supported both PHP4 and PHP5 but the latest major version (TYPO3 4.2) is PHP5 only and we didn't get the server checker updated to account for this yet.

You can still install a Starter Package based on TYPO3 4.1 and have it work in PHP4 but we would strongly recommend the latest Starter Package with TYPO3 4.2 on PHP5. WIthout it, you end up putting a lot of effort into an old version missing features and with no future upgrade path unless PHP gets upgraded on the server.

Thanks,
Jeff

Andre,
The Wayback Machine at archive.org can also be really helpful to grabbing content from a site that no longer exists. See http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://mosaiclife.org.


Thanks,
Jeff

Jeff,
Thanks a heap forhte link I was going to hcek for that after the google cache. You did my dectective work for me.

Mark,
I had uploaded the typo3 files and filders from my previous installation tot he new host. SHoudl I just delte those and installthe new starter package. What about files in the fileadmin, extension, and uploads folders. Will those be recongized by the new install or shoudl I do something else with them?

Thanks for the help
BTW I'm taking all sites off that web host as soon as possible. Thanks for the sympathy

Andre

Andre,

Others may have ideas about how to proceed, but here is my suggestion:

- Install the latest version of WEC Starter Package separate from the old directories

- Create a directory in fileadmin called something like fileadmin/old/ and copy your old fileadmin and uploads directories into the fileadmin/old/ directory. While you are at it, you can copy typo3temp and typo3conf into the same fileadmin/old/ directory.

fileadmin - My guess is that there are lots of files in fileadmin that you will need and you may even want to copy some of the directories to your main fileadmin.

uploads - There might be some files in uploads that you will need to sift through. They may have funny names, but this may be the only location for files that were not first uploaded to fileadmin.

typo3conf - I do not think there is much in here that won't get redone when you install extensions. You can use it to remind you which extension were installed. I suppose that there may be a few other things in there you might want to peek at at some point.

typo3temp - There is probably not anything in here that you need.

Unfortunately, the way content management systems work, the database is the key to most everything. So the hosting company really did damage by losing it. Backups are expensive for hosting companies, so sometimes they don't do them well and we lose stuff. A few years ago I was hosted at a low cost hosting company and learned that they did not make backups at all -- ouch. Well, we wish you the best and we feel your pain. It is just going to take a lot of time to recover from this.

In Christ,
Mark

So I'm trying to do the new wec starter install I get to the wec configuration part click onthe link in the web section andIget this error in the far right page



Any thoughts

Andre

Andre,
Its most likely an issue with the file permissions on the typo3conf folder.

The WEC Config module lives at http://mosaiclife.org/typo3conf/ext/wec_config/mod1/index.php. If permissions are correct, accessing this URL directly when you're not logged in to the TYPO3 backend should generate an error about no backend user being present. In your case, its generating a "403 Forbidden" which would mean that there's a permissions problem on that file (and probably the whole typo3conf folder).

THanks,
jeff