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user picture Author: Henry Pleas
Posted: Jul 27 2008 - 03:06 PM
Subject: htmlArea RTE 1.7.5 requires DAM
Heads up!

I noticed over the last couple of days the loss of upload capability when trying to process images using the Typo3 4.2 and the default htmlArea RTE 1.7.5. After some research it seems that the DAM extension is now required for uploading when the editor is htmlArea RTE 1.7.5. I'm not seeing DAM loaded in the latest WEC version, and when I add it manually, there is a new tab for Upload in any of the file selection screens.

Henry
user picture Author: Mark Stephenson
Posted: Jul 27 2008 - 08:13 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Henry,

The DAM is not required. Our Starter Package works fine without it and it runs TYPO3 version 4.2.1. I think it must be some other issue. What do you see wrong that indicates that you cannot upload? By any chance, was your server recently upgraded to PHP 5? Also, I suggest uninstalling the DAM at this point.

In Him,
Mark
user picture Author: Henry Pleas
Posted: Jul 27 2008 - 09:39 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Mark,

I apologize if I wrote with information that is inaccurate. Here is my situation.

We are running on a host using PHP 5.2.6. Originally I identified this problem with an upgraded installation of the Typo3/WEC Starter package from 4.1.6 to the latest 4.2.1. I upgraded the htmlArea RTE to 1.7.5 in the process and afterward....options for creating directories and uploading files were no longer available. I had one separate installation that still was running the 1.5.2 of htmlArea RTE. It was missing certain buttons under Typo3 4.2.1, but the directory creation and upload controls were still available. Thinking that the missing buttons would be solved by upgrading to the latest version of the htmlArea RTE, I deleted the 1.5.2 version RTE, which then allowed Typo3s 4.2.1 default version of the RTE (1.7.5) to be installed. Going back to an edit window the controls for directory creation and file uploads were gone.

Finally, I loaded a new version of the WEC-4_2_1-1_0_0 Starter Package and the file controls were again missing. I found some statements in the htmlArea RTE documentation that lead me to believe that these features were now supported via the DAM extension. Installation of the DAM extension provided the file controls that allow the people I support to upload from these pages. If there is another solution, I am happy to implement it.

Why is the DAM extension a problem?
user picture Author: Henry Pleas
Posted: Jul 27 2008 - 09:42 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
To further clarify...the host has been running with PHP 5 since I moved the installation there, at least 6 months ago. The version of Typo3 at the time of the move was 4.16.
user picture Author: Mark Stephenson
Posted: Jul 28 2008 - 08:59 PM
Subject: re: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Hi Henry,

I will try to answer your questions below:

First, if you are upgrading from the WEC Starter Package running TYPO3 4.1.6 then you should upgrade using a plain TYPO3 4.2.1 installation, not the WEC Starter package. The Starter Package is just for getting you started. After that, you should just upgrade with only TYPO3. This could be part of the issue.

Second, the RTE should be version 1.7.5 because that is the one that comes with TYPO3 2.4.1.

Digital Asset Management (DAM) stores files differently than standard fileadmin and it does not work with all extensions. We have also found stability problems with it in the past. So, we currently do not recommend it.

Here are the detailed instructions for upgrading to TYPO3 4.2.x.

http://webempoweredchurch.com/support/classes/upgradingypo342/

I hope this helps.

In Him,
Mark

user picture Author: Henry Pleas
Posted: Jul 28 2008 - 09:29 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
hmmmm....now I must admit that I am very confused. I did miss the instruction to get the Typo3 4.2.1 code from the Typo3 source and not the WEC Starter Package.

But the fresh install of the WEC Starter Package 4-2-1-1-0-0 should work? I have no directory creation or upload options on any of the Image tabs for this installation.

Any thoughts about hosting configuration stuff that might be causing this is appreciated.

Henry
user picture Author: Mark Stephenson
Posted: Jul 28 2008 - 09:59 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Henry,

We need to think it though, but my initial thought would be that the issue was caused by installing the new Starter Package over the top of the old one. When you did the install, how did you handle directories like typo3conf, uploads, fileadmin, and typo3temp. These should be left alone but may be overwritten if you install over the top of them with a Starter Package. Also, did you try to run the database script in the installer too? This script normally initializes the database.

Okay, let's look at a few simple options. First, do you have the ability to restore to your old version 4.1.6 version? Second, is you site pretty small to where you could try to copy off your text and images and then restart from scratch with the latest Starter Package. Please let me know.

If not, I need to talk to some people about what the options are for recovering well from this. My guess is that you will find more wrong.

In Him,
Mark
user picture Author: Henry Pleas
Posted: Jul 28 2008 - 10:21 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Hi Mark,

I have several installations. Each using separate directories and separate databases. It is working the same in all of them.

One of these is a fresh install into an empty directory and empty database of the latest WEC Starter Package. I get the same result. Other than this all the installations are working great. I may try doing another fresh install into another different new directory and database tomorrow and let you know my result.

Is anyone aware of documentation of how the tabbing and options for the "normal" fileadmin controls is supposed to function. I cannot find this in any of the Typo3 resources I have looked at..
user picture Author: Mark Stephenson
Posted: Jul 29 2008 - 07:57 AM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Henry,

Here is a How-To that shows you visually how the fileadmin is used to upload files. This is how we normally teach people to upload images because the images are available afterward instead of just stored internally within TYPO3. Once they are uploaded then they can be inserted into the RTE by selecting them.

http://webempoweredchurch.com/support/classes/wec_101_flash_version/lesson_16_wec_101_getting_started/

I see now what you are referring to. I was thinking there was some sort of error in the install process, but the file upload is just not showing up in the image window for uploading images into the RTE. Since we do not teach this approach, I did not notice at first. I will investigate that and we will get back to you. I have seen this before and it may just be an option that was set.

In Him,
Mark
user picture Author: Mark Stephenson
Posted: Jul 31 2008 - 02:38 PM
Subject: re: htmlArea RTE 1.75 requires DAM
Henry,

I talked to one of our team about this. It seems that now the drag and drop capability has been fully integrated into the RTE so the explicit file upload is not needed. Try grabbing an image file and dragging it onto the RTE, then save the changes. The image should be uploaded and should appear in the RTE. This is the new way of uploading into the RTE. I also see that I can use the image icon to browse the folders on the server. I can find a graphic there too and drag it into the RTE. Since those graphics are already uploaded, they display immediately. Please try it. It seems powerful.

In Him,
Mark
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